The following are some of the subjects that were addressed at the meeting:
1. Binding (larger chests)
2. Funding for Chest Surgery
3. Hormones
4. Passing (at work - transitioning on the job)
5. Passing in public
6. Aging
1. BINDING
(LARGER CHESTS) |
Binding is a frequently discussed issue at FTM+/SOFFA meetings. Those
who are larger chested often have significant concerns about if they
will bind "successfully" enough that they can pass as a flat-chested
person and be perceived male.
There are several options for binding (or choosing NOT to bind!). Larger
chested people often fret over their binding, fearing they will not
achieve the effects they desire. Some binding techniques -- such as
the use of athletic ("jog") bras, tight t-shirts, ace bandages,
spandex bike shorts (inverted shorts with the crotch cut out) lycra
"body trimmers", thin latex undershirts, etc. - that are effective
for smaller chested people, tend not to work as well for larger chested
individuals.
Tips:
- Use a binding method that is most comfortable for you.
- Use an approach that balances the ease of use and the appearance
you most prefer.
- Factor in health conditions and body variables. If you have back
or lung problems, you may want to consider not binding at all, or
using a method that places equal pressure throughout the chest/back
area. If you have skin problems, tight (or even loose) binding may
cause additional irritation.
- If you sweat a lot and use binders that are a “wrap around”
(like an abdominal support device), you may end up with unusual looking
sweat marks on your clothes, which may “give you away”.
- To minimize chafing or skin irritation, try wearing an A-shirt
or T-shirt under the binder and/or use talc or other powder to help
keep the skin drier under the binder.
- For large chests, pressing the breast tissue down and out towards
the armpits often helps “tuck away” and keep a flatter
appearance.
- Clothing styles can greatly create a masculine appearance. Many
people wear men’s work or flannel shirts, left unbuttoned, over
a dark t-shirt. Wearing sportcoats is another effective masculine
gender cue, especially if worn with a crisp button down shirt and
tie.
- More tips can be found online at many sites, but one of the most
complete and up to date is
“FTM PASSING TIPS”, found at http://www.geocities.com/ftmpass/passing.html
“Myths” about binding:
- You HAVE to bind in order to pass as male or to create the appearance
of a masculine chest.
- The tighter you bind, the flatter/more masculine your chest will
look.
- You have to buy expensive binders made just for FTMs in order to
bind well.
Some cautions about binding:
- It’s easy to over compress, which can inhibit the amount
of air you can take into your lungs, which obviously results in “breathing
issues” - difficulty catching your breath, or just plain difficulties
getting enough air.
- Due to the strong pressure from the binder around the chest/back,
which changes the normal spine alignment, back pain or other difficulties
can occur.
- Out of “fear” that a binding method isn’t as
effective as they hope it would be, many people “slump”
or curve their shoulders, in an effort to conceal the shape of their
chest. These postural changes can have significant impact on the ability
to breathe easily and fully, as well as issues with back pain, headaches,
and other body discomforts.
- Acne or other rashes can develop due to lack of adequate ventilation
over the bound area.
- Compressing the breast tissue may result in semi- or permanent
damage. (While some of the changes in breast tissue may actually make
binding easier more elongation and malleability - these changes may
be permanent. It is unknown what the long-term effects of damaging
the breast tissue may be, or what effect it may have on surgery, if
that is desirable.)
- Use common sense: binding when you need to, but also allowing time
for your body to heal and have some room to breathe (literally!).
Types of Binders:
Find a binding technique that works for you. Body size, skin irritation,
health conditions, desired appearance, type of clothing to be worn,
cost and many other factors play a role in determining what binding
method to select. Many people need to try several options before settling
on the one(s) that work best for them. The following are SOME of the
many options:
- Futuro (or other brand) abdominal binder ($20-30 - available at
pharmacies, grocery stories, internet, and discount department stores)
- Neoprene back braces ($10 - 30 - available at pharmacies, grocery
stories, internet, and discount department stores)
- Girdles ($10-60 - available at department stores, internet, and
women’s specialty stores)
- Spandex bike shorts [cut a hole in the crotch, which will end up
being the hole for your head. The legs of the shorts will be for your
arms. The spandex offers a nice snug fit, and the anchoring of the
“arms” helps keep it in place.] ($10 - 50 - available
at discount department stores, sporting goods stores, internet)
- Latex undershirts ($20 - 80 - available from “fetish”
stores, and online)
- Gynecomastia vests ($30 - 100 - available from online vendors and
some specialty pharmacies)
Where to buy:
Morris Designs
(offers several options of gynecomastia vests)
http://www.morrisdesigns.com/gv.htm
800-766-5578 (toll free)
Mr. S. Leathers
(offers custom made latex undershirts)
http://www.mr-s-leather-fetters.com/
Underworks
(offers a large selection of options for binding)
http://www.underworks.com/
T-Kingdom
(offers 8 different designs: t-shirt, mid-length, and sports-bra styles)
http://www.t-kingdom.com/products.htm
Telephone: +886-955-580-595
Address: No.6 Alley 1 Lane 52 CHUNG-HSING Street,YUNG-HO CITY,TAIPEI
COUNTY
234, TAIWAN
2.
FUNDING FOR CHEST SURGERY |
Funding chest surgery can be a very stressful journey. While many
people work several jobs in order to try to save enough money for surgery,
others may not be physically or emotionally able to work at all (or
work extra hours due to disability issues).
For those on disability who desire chest reconstruction, the prospects
of slow, incremental saving for chest surgery is often daunting (and
may take a dozen or more years). So too is the realization that one
may never be able to afford surgery and may need to bind or “conceal”
his chest or live with the body he has.
FORGE has heard of individuals who have been able to have chest reconstruction
or breast reduction paid for by Medicaid. We are still looking into
finding out more details and will post an additional follow-up when
we have more information.
Some options for funding surgery can include applying for a loan. Many
people seeking chest reconstruction have used the following loan agencies:
ASPS (American Society of Plastic Surgeons) Patient Financing
Program
800-834-9262
Cosmetic Fee Plan
888-440-2375
http://www.amerifee.com/cosmetic-surgery-financing/
Patient Financing System
888-737-3679
Unicorn Financial
3520 Thomasville Road
Tallahassee, FL 32308
888-519-6111
http://www.unicornfinancial.com
inforequest@unicornfinancial.com
A request was teasingly made at the meeting to see the results of some
chest surgeries. Transter.com houses dozens of surgery pictures and is
a great resource for checking out the results of various surgeons, body
types, and outcomes.
A few post surgery results pictures of one FORGE member can be viewed
at:
www.forge-forward.org/socialsupport/surgerypix.html
Last month's follow up resource focuses on hormones. Please refer to http://www.forge-forward.org/socialsupport/hormones2003.html
for more information on
1. Methods of testosterone delivery
2. Effects of testosterone
3. Health maintenance
4. Where does testosterone (injectable) come from? Is it kosher?
5. Injection how to (& needle phobia)
6. Factors that may influence dosage or ability to take hormones
7. Testosterone availability
Several specific questions arose around hormones at the November meeting
that were not addressed in October or in the follow up.
a. Androstenedione
Androstenedione is an over the counter product that contains synergistic
ingredients that work together to increase natural steroid testosterone
levels for accelerated muscle and strength gains. This line of products
are often used by non-trans men body builders in hopes of achieving
greater muscle mass. Its safety or efficacy is unknown and unstudied.
The effects of androstenedione in naturally estrogenated bodies (i.e.
pre-T FTMs) is unknown and may prove to be harmful, or null in its
overall effect. Please use caution when using non-prescription supplements.
b. Typical dosage of testosterone
There is a WIDE range of dosage variability, based on desired outcome,
health status, medical conditions, other medications, etc. Many healthcare
providers prescribe a dose of 200mg/ml of injectable testosterone
every 2 weeks. Body size has no effect in determining dosage. Blood
levels are one of the few ways of accurately gauging how much testosterone
is being absorbed and metabolized, and if these levels are achieving
desired results.
Taking additional testosterone in hopes of creating more masculine
effects sooner can backfire, since testosterone does convert to estrogen,
when the body cannot absorb and metabolize the amount of testosterone
in the body. Working with your healthcare provider is the best way
to assure the safest and most desired results from the use of testosterone.
c. Do you have to be on testosterone for life?
The majority of FTMs+ who start on testosterone, continue on with
hormones for the rest of their lives. Sometimes medical conditions
require them to stop, or they may change dosage based on age, desired
effect, hysterectomy, or other factors.
Some people choose to use hormones to achieve specific masculinizing
effects. For example, some people wish to have a deeper voice. Since
vocal cord thickening is a permanent result of testosterone use, after
the desired vocal range is reached, testosterone therapy can be discontinued.
There are many variables in determining how long, and how much (if
any) testosterone is used. Decisions are typically made by both the
individual using testosterone and his/hir health care provider.
d. What effects are permanent vs. what goes away when t is stopped?
Some effects from testosterone are permanent, including deeper voice,
enlarged
clit/neo-phallus/..., hair loss, and/or body hair growth.
For most people, if testosterone is stopped, the change in fat distribution
will return to a more "female"/hourglass form, menstruation
will likely resume, libido may decrease.
e. Title 19/Medicaid paying for hormones
Many people have their hormones paid for through Medicaid. Coverage
tends to happen with fewer holdups or challenges when the gender designator
on the insurance card/plan "matches" the hormones received.
i.e. if you are wanting testosterone paid for, the billing process
has fewer problems when your gender designator is male.
f. Compounded testosterone cream
Our Minnesota neighbor FTM group, The TMen (www.tmen.net),
wrote FORGE
a great note after reviewing the last FORGE follow up resource on
hormones.
Tyler wanted to share his/their experiences with our FORGE readership:
“I always appreciate your great meeting writeups! I was surprised
to see that compounded testosterone cream was not included in your
list. Just about everyone here is on it or considering trying it.
It's a much better alternative to shots than the gel, around 1/5th
as expensive, as well as easier to use (a great option for those with
no insurance coverage). We are finding out the hard way (and medical
research confirms) that the gel (AndroGel) 'lives' for 10-20 hours
outside of the body, including on doorknobs and sheets. Partners of
transmen on testosterone are reporting unwanted side effects from
exposure to this leftover AndroGel. It can be especially damaging
to partners who are taking medication for depression, as hormone level
changes can throw a good depression management situation completely
out of whack.
“Any compounding pharmacist should be able to make testosterone
cream. The dosage varies; usually 1/4 teaspoon a day is prescribed,
with the percentage of testosterone in the cream varying from 5 -
20%. It requires a high degree of personalization / hormone level
testing, as absorption rates differ from person to person. The cream
does have a potential for passing testosterone on to others as well,
but the time period is much shorter and it is more easily washed off.”
4. PASSING
(AT WORK - TRANSITIONING ON THE JOB) |
Coming out and/or transitioning on the job can be nearly (if not equal
to or greater than) as stressful as coming out to family. In working
with people, relationships are formed and roles are often defined, which
are sometimes difficult to shift after they are initially forged.
Some suggestions that were addressed at the meeting about how to make
transitioning at work easier included:
a. Pick a transition date
Some people find that choosing a specific date and announcing it,
makes the transition go more smoothly at work. Some find it easier
to pick a date that accompanies returning from chest surgery or having
their name legally changed, while others pick an arbitrary date.
b. Use “fun”/playful language in “coming out”
Some people like to announce their gender transition at work in a
serious way, while others use more casual language, concepts or means
of coming out. One suggestion, for work settings that would accept
it, is to use a “birth announcement”. A card that states:
“It’s a boy: male pronouns gladly accepted” is often
a great kind of “icebreaker” that also gives people some
concrete clues about how to interact with the transitioning person.
c. Androgynous vs. masculine names
Some people are very attached to their given name, or a name they
chose at some point in their lives - often an androgynous name. In
some work environments, depending on the relationship of individuals,
how long a person has worked there, the company politics, etc., keeping
an androgynous name can make co-worker acceptance and behavior change
more difficult. It’s often easier for OTHERS, when the name,
gender and everything changes, marking a distinctive difference and
new set of expectations. Of course, picking a name or keeping a name
is very personal and likely shouldn’t be dictated by co-workers’
abilities to make changes!
Passing in general can come easily or can be quite difficult. It’s
not always clear why some people pass successfully most of the time
and why others have routine challenges.
At the meeting we discussed many traditional concepts surrounding passing,
including secondary sex characteristics cuing, facial hair, vocal patterns
and pitch, wearing ties or other overtly masculine cues.
Some interesting concepts that arose at the meeting included how the
lack of confidence can often lead an outsider to have a female perception.
Likewise, how, in American society, smiling is sometimes associated
with females and femininity, and when men smile, this may tip the scales
a bit to the outside observer. We also discussed the “energetics”
of being male or female, as well as the internal confidence of our gender.
The more confident we are, the more comfortable and certain we are about
our gender, the more we energetically “give off” that we
are that gender. One way to reach a higher level of
confidence can be through “simple” affirmations.
Many people also like to be prepared for when they experience people’s
ambiguous or “wrong” perceptions of our gender. When the
store clerk says, “thank you sir, oh, I’m sorry, I mean
ma’am”, what can be done to affirm that she was initially
correct? Having ready-made, quippy comebacks can be quite helpful to
bolster confidence and affirm your gender in situations like these.
Because of the format of our meeting, we didn’t have much time
to discuss the pre-determined topic of aging!
For more information on how aging and transgender intersect, please
refer to the Transgender
Aging Network’s section of the FORGE website, located at www.forge-forward.org/TAN/
If you are over 50 and would like to join a very active, friendly email
support list, contact LoreeCD@aol.com
and say why you are interested, to be added to ElderTG.
For more information about FORGE (meetings, past meetings, basic information,
resources), please contact FORGE, PO Box 1272, Milwaukee, WI 53201.
Phone: 414-278-6031. Email: info@forge-forward.org.
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